Many of MGC’s members are passionate about our genre leaderboards. These pages reward those dedicated to a specific type of game - sports, first-person, party games, etc. Considering the recent release of Tinker, and the upcoming World of Goo and company, it was asked whether MGC would be dedicating a Genre category for these games.
On one hand, while the subject of this question was in regards to the smaller games (Tinker, etc - which are treated as XBLA games by Xbox), this change would affect all Games for Windows Live games, most of which are PC counterparts of Xbox 360 games and already have a genre. On the other hand, at the request of many, we have an East Asian genre for games released in that region (of course, many of those games defy genre classification anyway), including games released in other regions.
Even further, it would reduce the ‘doubling up’ on games needed to stay competitive in each genre (a potential loss for the top scorers, but a gain for everyone else). However, try not to think about whether this classification would help you, but rather whether it makes sense to separate Windows games from their Xbox counterparts.
Even if you’re not particularly interested in the genre leaderboards, please place your (relevant) thoughts here if you have them. Thanks for helping make MGC more entertaining for everyone!
When I suggested this change, I was thinking along the lines of keeping the 'double-up' games as they are, and just having an actual GFWL Arcade list, i.e. Tinker, World of Goo, Osmos, would be in it, but games like viva pinata, quantum of solace PC, would not. That way, it could have three main profile genres - Retail (which would encompass BOTH 360 and PC), XBLA (xbox live arcade), and GFWA (games for windows arcade). I think this would be the best idea in my opinion.
Just confirming that was me who typed that message above.
No, I don't think the games should be segregated. Just because a game is available on the PC, either exclusively such as halo 2 or as a double game like Gears does not stop them from being whatever genera they were already.
The Only PC game I have on my card is Fallout 3, and no matter what system it is on it is an RPG. I disagree with having a separate genera for foreign double games as well.
For example, I know someone who is still interested in the RPG leaderboard, but chose to get fallout 3 only on PC. Its cheaper and he can't afford to buy the game on the 360 where it retails at about twice the price. He should have the same right to be able to compete on the leaderboard as everyone else.
An argument against segregating the genera's on the leaderboard is it destroys the chances that players from certain countries have at competing on the individual leaderboards. I mean Japaneese gamers have no hope at all in competing on any of the genera boards as most of there games are in a separate genera. If you were to give, german games for example, a different leaderboard no german gamer would have a realistic chance at competing on the leaderboard as they would HAVE to resort to importing games. Where as living somewhere such as the UK or the US you can easily enter the top 25 of any genera without resorting to importing.
Yes gfwl should have its own catergory.
I don't see why the addition of GFWL arcade titles should force the birth of a completely new genre - the gradual emergence of PC games that offer up achievements certainly didn't cause those games to be separated from the existing genre lists, so not sure why a handful of PC-specific arcade games should.<br />
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How would games be handled where the achievements can't be stacked? Where you work on the same achievement list irrespective of the platform you play it on? Such games couldn't be tied to a particular genre then as you can earn the points on both 360 and PC versions of the game without them stacking.
I don't have much to say other than I think the separation is pointless.<br />
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I think getting the site code streamlined so the gamer stats update in a reasonable time (it can take over an hour right now) is a much better thing to be working on.
Uh, stats take an hour to update because that's the timeframe Microsoft has provided - updated information per GamerTag is only available to MGC once an hour. Can't report what I don't have.
I don't see how the time is unreasonable as it is. MGC only updates when the microsoft servers themselves have updated. Next time you get an achievement. Log on to xbox.com and look at your tag in the top right hand corner.
This takes close to an hour (usually more) to update. When it does, MGC will update.